This is a self aggrandizing myopic view of Webb s people with an entrenched narrative of Blood Sorcery (Shadows of Magic, long suffering while making excuses for anything negative While I grant that there is aot of truth contained in this book and Webb does present a fair amount of the complexities of the history he persistently casts everything in the ight of how great the Scots Irish are and how they have been unfairly maligned by the iberal elite and those damn educated people So while he talks on one side about how it s complicated than what is usually presented he then presents his own overly simplified spin He slams multiculturalism unions the plight of the Indians his term since he won t accept the term native Americans political correctness a term that is used to shut down any discussion and silence people whose opinions one doesn t Pizarro and the Conuest of Peru like and anti war sentiment He defends the continued display of the Confederate flag claiming it doesn t have anything to do with racism or slavery He characterizes efforts to end discrimination by examining deeply institutionalized racist policies and enactingaws to correct them as reverse discrimination He claims that the Scots Irish have suffered just as much as black people in America On this point it is clearly true that there are plenty of very poor white people and that many of them do suffer from ack of privilege but he seriously does not understand the scale to which black people in America have struggled for basic eualityWhere I do agree with Webb is when he discusses the problems of class The rich have benefited tremendously from increasing economic disparity helped along by Reaganomics and Wall Street influence on politics but that is not as Webb would have you believe primarily resting on the backs of the Scots Irish It s just not that simple And ironically the exact class of people he celebrates have consistently voted into power the exact people who have ed us to these extremes of economic disparityAnd finally there s this gem creationists rationally argue that the Evan (O'Connor Brothers Vol. 5) living world could not have been fashioned without an intelligent creator While this argument might have held water 200 years ago it is not even remotely rational any Evolution is a fact Webb doesn tike evolution and he even pulls the creationist rhetorical trick of calling it Darwinian theory completely ignoring the fact that the modern synthesis of evolutionary theory does not rest on the authority of a single man that it has in fact been proven and there are thousands of published papers establishing it s reality But Webb calls it Darwinian because it fits his narrative of one authority verses another for him it s the Bible vs Darwin Here s how he characterizes the conflict the core eaders of the Scots Irish culture attempting to face down theories tossed at them by English intellectuals and New England elites He makes it about class conflict when in fact Evolution is science and it stands on it s scientific merit Class has nothing to do with whether or not it is trueI know I said *FINALLY ON THE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH BUT HERE S ANOTHER *on the previous paragraph but here s another to chew on The hooded cross burning rallies of the Ku Klux Klan many of whose members were motivated not by illusions of white supremacy so much as by bitterness at being dominated came to symbolize the s of an entire regionI m kind of angry I spent money on this book But then I think it was valuable to have read it as much as it made me angry It s good to read something from a very different perspective to mine And I did earn uite a bit Soldier turned Senator turned author Jim Webb has given us a total of ten books of which the best known is probably 2004 s Born Fighting How the Scots Irish Shaped America an analysis of the Scots Irish in history and especially in the USA From William Wallace and Robert the Bruce on to the Battle of Bannockburn and the complicated plight of Ulster the author shows us how the Scots Irish fondness for direct action tribalism and problem solving has its origin in the old country and has endured to this day especially in the Appalachian hills and hollows of western Virginia and Pennsylvania This book is well written and has much to offer It needed maps though Its greatest single strength is probably its measured praise of President Andrew Jackson the first and arguably best of the Scots Irish American Presidents In this era of cancel culture though the fact that Jackson owned some slaves is viewed problematically than even in the recent past The book s greatest thematic strength is probably to show the strength and importance of Scots Irish Americans a group that has been relatively overlooked compared to other immigrants Few other books show the significance of the Scots Irish in America and particularly Appalachia Albion s Seed Four British Folkways in America and American Nations A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America among the few aimed at the general reader All told Born Fighting How the Scots Irish Shaped America is well worth reading While I was. In his first work of nonfiction bestselling novelist James Webb tells the epic story of the Scots Irish a people whose ives and worldview were dictated by resistance conflict and struggle and who in turn profoundly INFLUENCED THE SOCIAL POLITICAL AND CULTURAL the social political and cultural of America from its beginnings through the present dayMore than 27 million Americans today can trace their ineage to the Scots whose bloodline was stained by centuries of continuous warfare along the border between England and Scotland and I've Got a Home in Glory Land: A Lost Tale of the Underground Railroad later in the bitter settlements of England’s Ulster Plantation in Northern Ireland Between 250000 and 400000 Scots Irish migrated to America in the eighteenth century traveling in groups of families and bringing with them not onlyong experience as rebels and outcasts but also unparalleled skills as frontiersmen and guerrilla fighters Their cultural identity reflected acute individualism dislike of aristocracy and a military tradition and over time the Scots Irish defined the attitudes and values of the military of working class America and even of the peculiarly populist form of American dem. TMany of the Scottish people immigrated to Ulster in Northern Ireland where they differentiated themselves from both the potato Irish Catholics and the English Protestants becoming fundamentalist Calvinists and fighting against religious persecution and England s futile and violent attempts to bring this group into the fold Those who Pip Sueak Saves the Day Medici Books for Children left Ireland for America ended up not going to thearge commerce centers but instead sought out the primitive and dangerous frontier of the remote Appalachians Many of them made their way to the American South also challenging both the Government and the frontier Daniel Boone among others is set up as an example of such a person of Scotch Irish Dragonsbane lineageAgain due to their willingness to fight for individuality Mr Webb indicates that up to 40% of the American militia during the This book was interesting in parts and reasonably well written It s really a book in two parts one about the history of the Scots Irish beginning in Scotland the Plantation in Ireland through the English civil wars and emigration the second about the Scots Irish in America The first part is revelatory since most histories of Ireland relegate the Ulster Scots to a minor role A history from their perspective is enlightening The second part the Scots Irish experience in America has both good and bad points I had not been familiar with the role of the Scots Irish in the Revolutionary War one that may have turned the tide in Cornwallis march through Georgia In the melting pot that was America most Scots Irish relinuished their identities as a distinct ethnicity and became simply Americans at that point But Webb is right that much of Scottish Celtic tribalism continued to mold the nature of particularly Appalachian Americans individualists even to their own detriment uick to take offense hold grudges and pick a fight dourly Calvinistic and hedonistic at the same time and in eual measureHis incorrect analysis of the American civil war has been made before that the fighting spirit of the Celts kept the Confederacy in the war muchonger than it should have My own Scots Irish ancestors however fought eually hard for the Union and the area of Tennessee that my mother grew up in refused to secede The Catholic Irish Celts when drafted made a potent force on the other side However his idea that poor Southerners were merely defending their homes and did not support slavery is not just wrong but Lonestar Sanctuary ludicrous They may have been misled by theanded gentry that was their Trust Me, I'm Lying: Confessions of a Media Manipulator leadership into a war not in their best interests but a hatred of blacks even if they didn t know them was ingrained in these people His analysis of Reconstruction is eually misleading Yes the North was responsible for some Southern misery and poor whites were not much better off economically than blacks but theyoved being able to use the white only drinking fountains No doubt they were deceived again by wealthy white elites Still not only complicit in the treatment of freed blacks if anything they were despicable as William *Walker s Lanterns on the Levee makes clear The problem with Reconstruction is that it *s Lanterns on the Levee makes clear The problem with Reconstruction is that it too soon and never did mold the minds of poor Southerners Webb takes pride in this attributeEually appalling is his rather sad analysis of Vietnam War this book does indeed become an all encompassing vehicle for spouting his conservative philosophy affirmative action though I agree that Appalachia received undeservedly short shrift in the program the Confederate battle flag as a symbol of racism and the anti war movement Sometimes his discussion of his relationship with his father is poignant and insightful Sometimes it is bathetic So all in all the book is a mixed bag Thankfully I picked it up for a uarter This
is a book everyone interested in their scots a book everyone interested in their Scots heritage should read It is a non fiction piece of work with a structure similar to a novel It validates a Understanding the Black Economy and Black Money in India lot of what I have always feltbelieved particularly about the generalization of WASP s and how the Scots Irish history and culture is definitely contradictory than this over generalization of white America It also explains aot about myselfa Desperate (Bad Baker Boys, lot to embraceparticularly my own individualism and willingness to fight for a principled belief and not retreat Fabulous worktaking three decades of the author s research This book confirmed my suspicions that I have in common with those from the hills of North Carolina and Kentucky than I do with flatanders and city dwellers from my own state of Pennsylvania As far as how you grow up Biocentrismo. L'universo, la coscienza. La nuova teoria del tutto live and think being an Appalachian matters aot than which state you call home I saw a A Small C Compiler Language Usage Theory and Design lot of myself and even of my family in Webb s descriptions of the stubborn anti authoritarian self reliant blunt clannish Scots Irish who settled those mountains andargely defined the culture And as the title suggests
every generation of males in my family as far back as i can trace has done generation of males in my family as far back as i can trace has done service in a handful of wars I m thankful I l be breaking that tradition and I think they might be too. The pioneers Daniel Boone Lewis and Clark Davy Crockett and Sam Houston; they were the writers Edgar Allan Poe and Mark Twain; and they have given America numerous great military eaders including Stonewall Jackson Ulysses S Grant Audie Murphy and George S Patton as well as most of the soldiers of the Confederacy only 5 percent of whom owned slaves and who fought against what they viewed as an invading army It illustrates how the Scots Irish redefined American politics creating the populist movement and giving the country a dozen presidents including Andrew Jackson Teddy Roosevelt Woodrow Wilson Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton And it explores how the Scots Irish culture of isolation hard uck stubbornness and mistrust of the nation’s elite formed and still dominates blue collar America the military services the Bible Belt and country music Both a distinguished work of cultural history and a human drama that speaks straight to the heart of contemporary America Born Fighting reintroduces America to its most powerful patriotic and individualistic cultural group one too often ignored or taken for grant. .
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Growing up in the 70 s I was very envious of my friends who had identifiable ethnicities I wanted to be a hyphenated American but the roots of my family tree were sunk deep in the weeds and Whisper Loudly lacked the romance of stories of Cold War refugees escaping pogroms or sighting Ellis Island Yet WASP was certainly not fitting and caused my parents to recoil As Born Fighting unfolded the aha moments came thick and fast and I also understood that theack of identifiable culture I grew up with is actually a mark of Scots Irish culture Sort of I've Been Thinking . . .: Reflections, Prayers, and Meditations for a Meaningful Life like a symptom of schizophrenia can be the denial of any symptoms Since Webb is a politician theast chapters veered off into policy discussions and personal history The first three uarters of the book however were worth it I intend to bring this book to my family reunion and pass it around Dreadful history dishonest on every Dragon Ball Z Cycle 2 T03 levelI know that James Webb was a fighting Marine in Vietnam I honor his service But I still think this book is dishonestdistorted and offensive on everyevel Time and again as I was reading it I just wanted to throw it against a wall Whatever his skills as a fighting man Webb is a The Never-Ending Present: The Story of Gord Downie and the Tragically Hip & limited intellect with no sense of history and no capacity for self perception As a result his book is so biased selective and dishonest it boggles the mindIt s great that he traces the roots of the Scotch Irish all the way back to Gaelic tribes who fought against the Romans He brags that the Celts in Scotland never submitted to Rome and wouldie submerged in swamp water for days rather than submit to Roman slavery Assuming any of this is actually true it seems ironic that Webb never compares the Celts to black slaves in the American South Or to the Vietcong Evidently Webb only recognizes tyranny when the victims ook just ike himMoving on to the Middle Ages Webb having clearly watched BRAVEHEART several times spends nearly an entire chapter describing the savage slaughter of whole cities in Scotland by the cruel tyrant English Edward I My heart bleeds it really does But at The Saga of Tanya the Evil, Vol. 4 (light novel) least Edward didn t sell the Scots into slavery and force them to pick cotton for 250 years And he didn t drop napalm on their cities either Was Edward I really any worse than Andrew Jackson And were the Scots who fought Edward really any heroic than the Seminoles who fought Andrew Jackson These are the kind of uestions Webb is either too dumb to ask or too dishonest to answerIt s very painful to hear Webb go on and on about Andrew Jackson s courage andove of Fret Work Step By Step liberty as if black slavery was somehow not important enough to count as a real crime againstiberty How come when Edward I massacres the Scots he s an evil tyrant but when Jackson massacres the Indians he s a great American Again Webb is either too dumb to see the comparison or too dishonest to think it through This book really Mark of the Dragon Urban Dragon left me feeling disgusted with American history and with James Webb An amazing book by somewhat surprisingly a Democrat chronicling the history of the Ulster Scots AKA the Northern Irish Protestants AKA the Scots Irish into the New World and beyond I have been reading this book for 4 months It is not a slow read but I found myself so facinated with the history of this people that I had to stop after I m not a huge fan of ethnic boosterism but this sweet and pugnacious paean to the hillbillies among us is moving and enlightening The Scots Irish are among the few groups in America that it s ok for some reason to despise and Webb s book seemsike a necessary corrective *I Picked This Up From *picked this up from for an obscenely Soigner le Sida autrement avec le protocole ICCARRE low price having had it recommended to me by my friend Keith I m half Irish Potato Irish not Scots Irish but my maternal grandmother came from County Antrim in North Ireland and believe you me she hated the English so there s some commonality but I m getting ahead of myself Mr Webb s thesis is that is that many US citizens are descendants of the Scots Irish which originated in Scotland marked by intense tribaloyalty and a willingness to fight against big government of any sort So to uote Mr Webb The journey of the Scots big government of any sort So to uote Mr Webb The journey of the Scots been not simply one of hardship or disappointment but of freuent and bitter conflict These conflicts from which they have never in two thousand years of history retreated have followed a historically consistent cycle of among other things a values based combativeness an insistent egalitarianism and a refusal to be dominated from above no matter the cost The history of these people dates back to the times when the Celtic tribes resisted the power of the Roman Empire and eventually centered in Scotland The prominence and importance of William Wallace Braveheart and Robert the Bruce in the development of the Scottish people is certainly given credit The joining of four intense and bellicose independent tribal peoples to fight the English seems a daunting task but it was accomplished Afghanistan s President Hamid Karzai s attempts to bring the country s fourteen tribal groups together certainly seems apropos in this contex. Ocracy itself Born Fighting is the first book to chronicle the full journey of this remarkable cultural group and the profound but unrecognized role it has played in the shaping of America Written with the storytelling verve that has earned his works such acclaim as “captivating unforgettable” the Wall Street Journal on Lost Soliders Scots Irishman James Webb Vietnam combat veteran and former Naval Secretary traces the history of his people beginning nearly two thousand years ago at Hadrian’s Wall when the nation of Scotland was formed north of the Wall through armed conflict in contrast to England’s formation to the south through commerce and trade Webb recounts the Scots’ odyssey their clashes with the English in Scotland and then in Ulster their retreat from one war ravaged and to another Through engrossing chronicles of the challenges the Scots Irish faced Webb vividly portrays how they developed the ualities that helped settle the American frontier and define the American character Born Fighting shows that the Scots Irish were 40 percent of the Revolutionary War army; they included.